G From: R Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:59 AM To: Subject: Northern latitudes
Garry: Lately you have been a party to my musings about telescopes now I have a rather interesting dilema. Corresponding with Bob Graham it has become very apparent that there is in the published record about Drake's voyage a huge range in the height raised to the north. Are you aware of any patterns in the declared heights, Were they increasing over time, declining, scattered and there is also the curious statement made by John Davis Madox on the Fenton expedition that Drake hasd been on the back side of Labrador. There is also the overwritten number in the manuscript in Londob(I went to see it and it also appeared to me to indicate at one time 57 had been penned in. That puts the spread from 42 -57 which is about 1000 miles. That is not in any realm of accuracy and appears to be completely outside of the demonstrated accuracy of Drake's navigation. Outside of this quandry , have you seen the letter from Ortelius to Mercator -1580- that complains about how the Eng are giving out contradictory stories about the voyage? Bob has a complete letter in Latin and has carefully reviewed the translation and believes it to be accurate. Merry Christmas and the best in 2013 Ralph
Hi Ralph, I believe Bawlf mentions overwritten numbers. As far as Labrador goes, the latitude is 52.56 deg. If you’re referring to the Mercator letter being sworn to secrecy to the exact latitude and being upset that the truth wasn’t let out but he had hoped with so many knowing that it would be let out, I know about it. Any other letter about latitude, I’m not familiar with. The Mercator letter is the crux of the entire Drake mystery. So many secrets, so much disinformation and finally so much of the real truth being let out that it became almost impossible to understand the truth until Jensen and Viles discovered the Neahkahnie Mountain survey which has eventually led to Nehalem Bay being the true location of his landing. So may experts looking in the wrong place, so may wrong decisions, so much false theories being taken as truth. California has never found the exact site because, quite simply he was never there. Your really ought to get my “Oregon’s Stolen History”. I’m working on the grand findings book. It only has to be edited and finished in about a year. Needless to say, the NPS’s buffoon decision of a National Landmark at Drake’s Bay will be the last chapter. Smart California people, so called Drake experts, will still throw up their smoke and mirrors without standing up and naming a site. It is as if, history be damned, the game of debate is all they care about. Best wishes, Happy Holidays and Peace.
Garry: Lately you have been a party to my musings about telescopes now I have a rather interesting dilema. Corresponding with Bob Graham it has become very apparent that there is in the published record about Drake's voyage a huge range in the height raised to the north. Are you aware of any patterns in the declared heights, Were they increasing over time, declining, scattered and there is also the curious statement made by John Davis Madox on the Fenton expedition that Drake hasd been on the back side of Labrador. There is also the overwritten number in the manuscript in Londob(I went to see it and it also appeared to me to indicate at one time 57 had been penned in. That puts the spread from 42 -57 which is about 1000 miles. That is not in any realm of accuracy and appears to be completely outside of the demonstrated accuracy of Drake's navigation. Outside of this quandry , have you seen the letter from Ortelius to Mercator -1580- that complains about how the Eng are giving out contradictory stories about the voyage? Bob has a complete letter in Latin and has carefully reviewed the translation and believes it to be accurate. Merry Christmas and the best in 2013 Ralph
Hi Ralph, I believe Bawlf mentions overwritten numbers. As far as Labrador goes, the latitude is 52.56 deg. If you’re referring to the Mercator letter being sworn to secrecy to the exact latitude and being upset that the truth wasn’t let out but he had hoped with so many knowing that it would be let out, I know about it. Any other letter about latitude, I’m not familiar with. The Mercator letter is the crux of the entire Drake mystery. So many secrets, so much disinformation and finally so much of the real truth being let out that it became almost impossible to understand the truth until Jensen and Viles discovered the Neahkahnie Mountain survey which has eventually led to Nehalem Bay being the true location of his landing. So may experts looking in the wrong place, so may wrong decisions, so much false theories being taken as truth. California has never found the exact site because, quite simply he was never there. Your really ought to get my “Oregon’s Stolen History”. I’m working on the grand findings book. It only has to be edited and finished in about a year. Needless to say, the NPS’s buffoon decision of a National Landmark at Drake’s Bay will be the last chapter. Smart California people, so called Drake experts, will still throw up their smoke and mirrors without standing up and naming a site. It is as if, history be damned, the game of debate is all they care about. Best wishes, Happy Holidays and Peace.
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